P.I.D. Radio 8/26/12: Here Comes Isaac


Tropical Storm IsaacIT’S HARD to believe, but seven years ago almost to the day we recorded a program on PID Radio about the impending landfall of Hurricane Katrina. Now, we look at the forecasts and see meteorologists warning that Tropical Storm Isaac may “even rival Hurricane Katrina in its destructive power.”  Current models put Isaac on the Gulf Coast late Tuesday or early Wednesday.

Here is the link to the MIMIC website Sharon mentioned.

Also: Who does the government intend to shoot; Russia may have sold out Iran for Israeli gas; link between Saudi terror cells and rocket attacks on Israel; the Ulsterman and his White House Insider; and Derek recommends Wolf Time by Lars Walker (free download in Kindle, Palm, EPUB, MOBI, HTML, RTF, Microsoft Reader, Ebookwise/Rocket, and Sony Digital formats).

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5 comments on “P.I.D. Radio 8/26/12: Here Comes Isaac

  1. MacBook

    Satan tried to thwart the two witnesses, Romney and Ryan, from becoming the presidential team that bombs Iran to smithereens. A puny hurricane can’t stop God’s chosen elect. There will be blood.

    I always thought that maybe Netanyahu could be the second coming of the Messiah. It’s impossible to know how prophecy unfolds.

    Semper Fidelis

  2. rad

    Regarding the “Who does the government intend to shoot?” link, you guys should fact check the article behind the link? That was one of the biggest pieces of vacuous conspiracy theorist FUD I think I’ve ever read, and unfortunately your coverage of it didn’t help matters. The SSA has law enforcement agents, and when you divide the amount of ammo they are buying against the number of agents they have you come up with about 600 rounds per agent. Armed federal law enforcement agents are required to train and qualify with their duty weapons quarterly, and they need about 600 rounds per year to do this. Some might argue why they would train with hollow points and not something cheaper, but with the kind of discounts law enforcement gets from the manufacturers it makes better sense for the agents to train with the same ammo they are going to carry. And this is not unusual for any federal agencies that have law enforcement responsibilities. For example, the ammo purchase by NOAA is for their Fisheries Office which is a law enforcement division.

    Anyway, I wanted to bring this up because I’ve known you guys to do better in the past.

  3. Derek Post author

    Hi, Rad,

    That’s a valid criticism. Since the article was written by a retired two-star Army general, it seemed worth discussing. If these purchases were odd to a career military man, then maybe they are odd.

    I wouldn’t see an issue with the FBI or ATF ordering such ammunition, but the SSA and NOAA’s Fisheries Office? Are security teams from those agencies really getting into situations where they’re called upon to use lethal force? And even if this is nothing more than an example of bureaucratic mission creep, isn’t it worth mentioning?

    I did some reading on this tonight and there are conflicting opinions, as you might imagine. Enough people are questioning the use of hollow point rounds for training that we tend to believe that the government is, at best, being extravagant.

  4. rad

    When you see the kind of discounts law enforcement gets from the manufacturers it makes sense for the agents to train with the same ammo they carry. They get MUCH better prices than we do, most often simply due to the volume they order, and by training with what they’ll carry the agents don’t have to worry about the gun behaving differently than it does in training.

    As to the author of the article, the way he writes the article makes me think he’s just trying to stir people up but I also see some clues that tell me that he’s looking at these purchases through the lens of his military experience. For example he mentions the Geneva Convention, but there are quite a few other things that cause me to give him some benefit of the doubt. For one, the weapons training and standards for qualification are vastly different between LE and military. Where military training is much more rifle based, LE is mostly handgun based. The use-of-force rules and scenarios are also vastly different with LE being the tougher standard I think. In LE the training veers towards how to put down a dangerous assailant or suspect quickly before the LEO or any bystanders get hurt or killed, and to do so without hurting or killing any bystanders in the process. Hollow point rounds are used here because they help do that and have a greatly reduced chance of over penetrating the perp and hurting or killing someone else. In the classical military engagements there is much less concern with hitting bystanders or over-penetration. So, due to this you’ll find that LEO’s will be required to train more often, and shoot more rounds doing so, than a soldier would.

    As to their agents getting into scenarios where lethal force may be required, well think about it. Their agents are tasked with arresting those they have investigated and charged. Many crooks try to do stupid things when facing arrest. Things like trying to harm the LEO who is trying to arrest them. It’s standard procedure for any LEO with the power to arrest to be armed. Pretty much always has been. Further, many federal agencies have their own law enforcement divisions:


    The pattern of individual departments maintaining their own law enforcement divisions goes way back. It makes sense too, as that way they can train their LEO’s on all of the details and specifics to enforcing the laws Congress has charged them with.

  5. Derek Post author

    Good points, Rad. We will do our best to update this and present a more balanced view. It really isn’t our desire to spread alarm for the sake of having something to fill a show.

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